Jay wrote:
> Greetings! I'm a New Englander who came down to DC for a conference and
> poached on your territory by planting a few letterboxes (5 of 'em) in the
> capital area. Could you make a link to them on the LBNA website? They are at:
>
> http://members.aol.com/drewclan/capital.htm
As you can see, Jay has added 5 more boxes, this time in DC. As for linking
them to the site, that would be Mitch's job (although I am somewhat looking
into getting server on a faster link for all of letterboxing.org someday,
maybe next year).
Also, I would recommend (to Jay and anyone else), to post clues and links to
clues to the main list, not to the state lists, as some of them I imagine are
not even monitored, and people should not have to depend on a webmaster before
getting access to clues.
Finally, I am close to solving the mystery of why some people cannot get
to Jay's clues. It seems that if you use Netscape, you cannot access them,
(for some reason). I've tried 3 different versions of Netscape (including the
latest version) on three different computers, no access, tried Microsoft's
browser on the same computers and got to the clues (although IE 4.0 has
trouble rendering Jay's home page). Interestingly enough, I could not
access _another_ AOL Hometown page unrelated to letterboxing (and not in
the LbNA frames) using Netscape (AOL of course makes the Netscape browser,
which makes this even more baffling than usual). I imagine, then, that
it is how Netscape is configured, because I'm sure if no one with Netscape
could get there, AOL would have heard about it. So far, all I know is
that me and Bonnie are having the problem.
So, I'd appreciate it if anyone _can_ access the above URL using any
version of Netscape if they would e-mail me the version and platform
info. Otherwise, if Jay wants the clues accessible to Netscape users,
he may have to ask AOL what is going on, try getting rid of all the java
(which I imagine AOL adds), or move them to Geocities or something.
(We could also put a 'Microsoft browser necessary to access some of these
clues' if people don't have a 'tude about that, because with all those
clues, I imagine it would be a hassle to move them :-)).
Randy
one of the letterboxing.org webmasters
Washington DC Letterboxes
8 messages in this thread |
Started on 1999-11-15
[LbNA] Re: [Letterbox-MD] Washington DC Letterboxes
From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) |
Date: 1999-11-15 20:50:07 UTC-04:00
[LbNA] Re: [Letterbox-MD] Washington DC Letterboxes
From: (teapot@teapot.mv.com) |
Date: 1999-11-15 22:29:47 UTC-05:00
I couldn't access Jay's page using Netscape, but with IE I could as
well. I did a little more sleuthing and looked up the web-page tool
that Jay was using - Microvision WebExpress - according to the source
code of the page and this _may_ hold the answer to the problem:
http://www.mvd.com/ts/ts-01/ts01-020.htm
I checked the coding again, but as I'm no html guru here I got lost
after a couple of lines. Maybe?
Nisa :)
well. I did a little more sleuthing and looked up the web-page tool
that Jay was using - Microvision WebExpress - according to the source
code of the page and this _may_ hold the answer to the problem:
http://www.mvd.com/ts/ts-01/ts01-020.htm
I checked the coding again, but as I'm no html guru here I got lost
after a couple of lines. Maybe?
Nisa :)
[LbNA] Re: [Letterbox-MD] Washington DC Letterboxes
From: Bonita Sennott (bonitasusan@hotmail.com) |
Date: 1999-11-16 06:37:23 UTC-05:00
Hey Randy. Not to make the Drew Mystery even more mysterious or anything,
but I actually was able to get to their clue pages recently, though most of
the time I cannot. Go figure!
Bonnie
Leverett, MAss.
>From: Randy Hall
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
>To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
>Subject: [LbNA] Re: [Letterbox-MD] Washington DC Letterboxes
>Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:50:07 -0400
>
>Jay wrote:
>
> > Greetings! I'm a New Englander who came down to DC for a conference and
> > poached on your territory by planting a few letterboxes (5 of 'em) in
>the
> > capital area. Could you make a link to them on the LBNA website? They
>are at:
> >
> > http://members.aol.com/drewclan/capital.htm
>
>As you can see, Jay has added 5 more boxes, this time in DC. As for
>linking
>them to the site, that would be Mitch's job (although I am somewhat looking
>into getting server on a faster link for all of letterboxing.org someday,
>maybe next year).
>
>Also, I would recommend (to Jay and anyone else), to post clues and links
>to
>clues to the main list, not to the state lists, as some of them I imagine
>are
>not even monitored, and people should not have to depend on a webmaster
>before
>getting access to clues.
>
>Finally, I am close to solving the mystery of why some people cannot get
>to Jay's clues. It seems that if you use Netscape, you cannot access them,
>(for some reason). I've tried 3 different versions of Netscape (including
>the
>latest version) on three different computers, no access, tried Microsoft's
>browser on the same computers and got to the clues (although IE 4.0 has
>trouble rendering Jay's home page). Interestingly enough, I could not
>access _another_ AOL Hometown page unrelated to letterboxing (and not in
>the LbNA frames) using Netscape (AOL of course makes the Netscape browser,
>which makes this even more baffling than usual). I imagine, then, that
>it is how Netscape is configured, because I'm sure if no one with Netscape
>could get there, AOL would have heard about it. So far, all I know is
>that me and Bonnie are having the problem.
>
>So, I'd appreciate it if anyone _can_ access the above URL using any
>version of Netscape if they would e-mail me the version and platform
>info. Otherwise, if Jay wants the clues accessible to Netscape users,
>he may have to ask AOL what is going on, try getting rid of all the java
>(which I imagine AOL adds), or move them to Geocities or something.
>(We could also put a 'Microsoft browser necessary to access some of these
>clues' if people don't have a 'tude about that, because with all those
>clues, I imagine it would be a hassle to move them :-)).
>
>Randy
>one of the letterboxing.org webmasters
>
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but I actually was able to get to their clue pages recently, though most of
the time I cannot. Go figure!
Bonnie
Leverett, MAss.
>From: Randy Hall
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
>To: letterbox-usa@egroups.com
>Subject: [LbNA] Re: [Letterbox-MD] Washington DC Letterboxes
>Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 20:50:07 -0400
>
>Jay wrote:
>
> > Greetings! I'm a New Englander who came down to DC for a conference and
> > poached on your territory by planting a few letterboxes (5 of 'em) in
>the
> > capital area. Could you make a link to them on the LBNA website? They
>are at:
> >
> > http://members.aol.com/drewclan/capital.htm
>
>As you can see, Jay has added 5 more boxes, this time in DC. As for
>linking
>them to the site, that would be Mitch's job (although I am somewhat looking
>into getting server on a faster link for all of letterboxing.org someday,
>maybe next year).
>
>Also, I would recommend (to Jay and anyone else), to post clues and links
>to
>clues to the main list, not to the state lists, as some of them I imagine
>are
>not even monitored, and people should not have to depend on a webmaster
>before
>getting access to clues.
>
>Finally, I am close to solving the mystery of why some people cannot get
>to Jay's clues. It seems that if you use Netscape, you cannot access them,
>(for some reason). I've tried 3 different versions of Netscape (including
>the
>latest version) on three different computers, no access, tried Microsoft's
>browser on the same computers and got to the clues (although IE 4.0 has
>trouble rendering Jay's home page). Interestingly enough, I could not
>access _another_ AOL Hometown page unrelated to letterboxing (and not in
>the LbNA frames) using Netscape (AOL of course makes the Netscape browser,
>which makes this even more baffling than usual). I imagine, then, that
>it is how Netscape is configured, because I'm sure if no one with Netscape
>could get there, AOL would have heard about it. So far, all I know is
>that me and Bonnie are having the problem.
>
>So, I'd appreciate it if anyone _can_ access the above URL using any
>version of Netscape if they would e-mail me the version and platform
>info. Otherwise, if Jay wants the clues accessible to Netscape users,
>he may have to ask AOL what is going on, try getting rid of all the java
>(which I imagine AOL adds), or move them to Geocities or something.
>(We could also put a 'Microsoft browser necessary to access some of these
>clues' if people don't have a 'tude about that, because with all those
>clues, I imagine it would be a hassle to move them :-)).
>
>Randy
>one of the letterboxing.org webmasters
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Looking for the hottest sports memorabilia or sporting goods
>specials? eBay has thousands of trading cards, sports autographs
>and collectibles.You never know what you might find at eBay!
>http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/1143
>
>
>eGroups.com Home: http://www.egroups.com/group/letterbox-usa/
>http://www.egroups.com - Simplifying group communications
>
>
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[LbNA] Re: [Letterbox-MD] Washington DC Letterboxes
From: Tom Cooch (tcooch@mail.sover.net) |
Date: 1999-11-17 05:01:45 UTC
Randy wrote ...
>
> Finally, I am close to solving the mystery of why some people cannot get
> to Jay's clues. It seems that if you use Netscape, you cannot access them,
> (for some reason). I've tried 3 different versions of Netscape (including the
> latest version) on three different computers, no access, tried Microsoft's
> browser on the same computers and got to the clues (although IE 4.0 has
> trouble rendering Jay's home page). Interestingly enough, I could not
> access _another_ AOL Hometown page unrelated to letterboxing (and not in
> the LbNA frames) using Netscape (AOL of course makes the Netscape browser,
> which makes this even more baffling than usual). I imagine, then, that
> it is how Netscape is configured, because I'm sure if no one with Netscape
> could get there, AOL would have heard about it. So far, all I know is
> that me and Bonnie are having the problem.
>
> So, I'd appreciate it if anyone _can_ access the above URL using any
> version of Netscape if they would e-mail me the version and platform
> info. Otherwise, if Jay wants the clues accessible to Netscape users,
> he may have to ask AOL what is going on, try getting rid of all the java
> (which I imagine AOL adds), or move them to Geocities or something.
> (We could also put a 'Microsoft browser necessary to access some of these
> clues' if people don't have a 'tude about that, because with all those
> clues, I imagine it would be a hassle to move them :-)).
>
Randy, I use both IE 5 and Netscape Navigator 4.6 and can access
Jay's pages with both. I am using Windows 95 (second version).
Here are three different versions of Jay's home page address. Does it
make any difference which one you use?
http://hometown.aol.com/drewclan/index.htm
http://members.aol.com/drewclan/index.htm
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/drewclan/index.htm
The third version shows the format I have taken to using in our map
links to Jay's pages. It seems to bypass the Hometown top frame,
which was conflicting with our own LbNA top frame and creating
problems.
Let me know what other configuration info I can send you to help
solve this problem.
Tom
>
> Finally, I am close to solving the mystery of why some people cannot get
> to Jay's clues. It seems that if you use Netscape, you cannot access them,
> (for some reason). I've tried 3 different versions of Netscape (including the
> latest version) on three different computers, no access, tried Microsoft's
> browser on the same computers and got to the clues (although IE 4.0 has
> trouble rendering Jay's home page). Interestingly enough, I could not
> access _another_ AOL Hometown page unrelated to letterboxing (and not in
> the LbNA frames) using Netscape (AOL of course makes the Netscape browser,
> which makes this even more baffling than usual). I imagine, then, that
> it is how Netscape is configured, because I'm sure if no one with Netscape
> could get there, AOL would have heard about it. So far, all I know is
> that me and Bonnie are having the problem.
>
> So, I'd appreciate it if anyone _can_ access the above URL using any
> version of Netscape if they would e-mail me the version and platform
> info. Otherwise, if Jay wants the clues accessible to Netscape users,
> he may have to ask AOL what is going on, try getting rid of all the java
> (which I imagine AOL adds), or move them to Geocities or something.
> (We could also put a 'Microsoft browser necessary to access some of these
> clues' if people don't have a 'tude about that, because with all those
> clues, I imagine it would be a hassle to move them :-)).
>
Randy, I use both IE 5 and Netscape Navigator 4.6 and can access
Jay's pages with both. I am using Windows 95 (second version).
Here are three different versions of Jay's home page address. Does it
make any difference which one you use?
http://hometown.aol.com/drewclan/index.htm
http://members.aol.com/drewclan/index.htm
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/drewclan/index.htm
The third version shows the format I have taken to using in our map
links to Jay's pages. It seems to bypass the Hometown top frame,
which was conflicting with our own LbNA top frame and creating
problems.
Let me know what other configuration info I can send you to help
solve this problem.
Tom
[LbNA] Re: [Letterbox-MD] Washington DC Letterboxes
From: B. J. Drew (nep1bjd@nep10.med.navy.mil) |
Date: 1999-11-17 03:54:25 UTC-08:00
Tom & Randy, again, thanks for all your work making that tricky home
page happen. I still think the problem is likely operator error: as
Nisa noticed, I use a cheapo web publishing tool (the same one Marty
uses on his web page, I think) and know absolutely nada about html.
With the tool, all the computer stuff is completely invisible: it's
just like word processing to me. As Tom knows, I just can't seem to
think in that more knowledgable mode and make even a simple "image map"
work...sorry for any trouble accessing our family's cluesheets. We'll
try and post them to the list here as they get done, which may save
headaches for some. I polled my rather extensive email address book of
friends and colleagues, and none had a problem getting on, whether
using IE, Netscape, Windows, or Mac. If you ever have trouble getting
on and would like a cluesheet direct, just email me at
drewclan@aol.com. We also do things the old fashioned way down here, on
real paper: all the local clues are available at the Waterford CT
Eastern Mountain Sports store, and I'd be glad to snail mail them to
you as well. And they look alot prettier than net downloads, too.
And, concerning the FUN part, I really enjoyed getting down to DC and
planting some boxes there, although I couldn't bring my kids. On the
way down I detoured through Valley Forge and had a very nice fall day
(kind of like seconds on fall, since PA still is in color) hiking
around looking for Randy's series. Kind of like my mental html block,
I'm not very good at puzzleing, but I did manage to find #1, "A Walk in
the Park" just as the sun was going down. It's a terrific box and now
I'm looking for an excuse for another detour...thanks, Randy!
Jay
> "tom cooch" wrote:
> Randy, I use both IE 5 and Netscape Navigator 4.6 and can access
> Jay's pages with both. I am using Windows 95 (second version).
>
> Here are three different versions of Jay's home page address. Does it
> make any difference which one you use?
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/drewclan/index.htm
>
> http://members.aol.com/drewclan/index.htm
>
> http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/drewclan/index.htm
>
>
> The third version shows the format I have taken to using in our map
> links to Jay's pages. It seems to bypass the Hometown top frame,
> which was conflicting with our own LbNA top frame and creating
> problems.
>
> Let me know what other configuration info I can send you to help
> solve this problem.
>
> Tom
page happen. I still think the problem is likely operator error: as
Nisa noticed, I use a cheapo web publishing tool (the same one Marty
uses on his web page, I think) and know absolutely nada about html.
With the tool, all the computer stuff is completely invisible: it's
just like word processing to me. As Tom knows, I just can't seem to
think in that more knowledgable mode and make even a simple "image map"
work...sorry for any trouble accessing our family's cluesheets. We'll
try and post them to the list here as they get done, which may save
headaches for some. I polled my rather extensive email address book of
friends and colleagues, and none had a problem getting on, whether
using IE, Netscape, Windows, or Mac. If you ever have trouble getting
on and would like a cluesheet direct, just email me at
drewclan@aol.com. We also do things the old fashioned way down here, on
real paper: all the local clues are available at the Waterford CT
Eastern Mountain Sports store, and I'd be glad to snail mail them to
you as well. And they look alot prettier than net downloads, too.
And, concerning the FUN part, I really enjoyed getting down to DC and
planting some boxes there, although I couldn't bring my kids. On the
way down I detoured through Valley Forge and had a very nice fall day
(kind of like seconds on fall, since PA still is in color) hiking
around looking for Randy's series. Kind of like my mental html block,
I'm not very good at puzzleing, but I did manage to find #1, "A Walk in
the Park" just as the sun was going down. It's a terrific box and now
I'm looking for an excuse for another detour...thanks, Randy!
Jay
> "tom cooch"
> Randy, I use both IE 5 and Netscape Navigator 4.6 and can access
> Jay's pages with both. I am using Windows 95 (second version).
>
> Here are three different versions of Jay's home page address. Does it
> make any difference which one you use?
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/drewclan/index.htm
>
> http://members.aol.com/drewclan/index.htm
>
> http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/drewclan/index.htm
>
>
> The third version shows the format I have taken to using in our map
> links to Jay's pages. It seems to bypass the Hometown top frame,
> which was conflicting with our own LbNA top frame and creating
> problems.
>
> Let me know what other configuration info I can send you to help
> solve this problem.
>
> Tom
[LbNA] Re: [Letterbox-MD] Washington DC Letterboxes
From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) |
Date: 1999-11-17 09:29:05 UTC-04:00
> Here are three different versions of Jay's home page address. Does it
> make any difference which one you use?
Nope. I imagine its a how netscape is locally configured issue, since
3 people on this list have failed, all using netscape, but some people
succeed using netscape. Since there is no way we can ask Internet users
at large to reconfigure their browsers to view these pages (since some
percentage of them will fail to view them) anyway, even if we figure out
what it is, the solutions seem to be (pick one):
a) move them off AOL
b) use a different authoring tool
c) ask users to use Microsoft when viewing the site
d) have Jay post the clues via e-mail to the list
e) visit the EMS store or get them via snail mail
f) try eliminating spaces in filenames as suggested by the authoring tool
people.
Has anyone brought up this problem with AOL support or the support people
of the authoring tool?
Randy
> make any difference which one you use?
Nope. I imagine its a how netscape is locally configured issue, since
3 people on this list have failed, all using netscape, but some people
succeed using netscape. Since there is no way we can ask Internet users
at large to reconfigure their browsers to view these pages (since some
percentage of them will fail to view them) anyway, even if we figure out
what it is, the solutions seem to be (pick one):
a) move them off AOL
b) use a different authoring tool
c) ask users to use Microsoft when viewing the site
d) have Jay post the clues via e-mail to the list
e) visit the EMS store or get them via snail mail
f) try eliminating spaces in filenames as suggested by the authoring tool
people.
Has anyone brought up this problem with AOL support or the support people
of the authoring tool?
Randy
[LbNA] Re: [Letterbox-MD] Washington DC Letterboxes
From: (Mohmers@aol.com) |
Date: 1999-11-17 08:38:31 UTC-05:00
HI, I am on AOL and have not had a problem accessing the page. Maybe it is
a local server/volume or personal computer problem.
a local server/volume or personal computer problem.
[LbNA] Re: [Letterbox-MD] Washington DC Letterboxes
From: Steven Stary (kurrwic@yahoo.com) |
Date: 1999-11-19 14:41:30 UTC-08:00
--- Tom Cooch
>
> Here are three different versions of Jay's home page
> address. Does it
> make any difference which one you use?
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/drewclan/index.htm
>
> http://members.aol.com/drewclan/index.htm
>
> http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/drewclan/index.htm
>
>
> The third version shows the format I have taken to
> using in our map
> links to Jay's pages. It seems to bypass the
> Hometown top frame,
> which was conflicting with our own LbNA top frame
> and creating
> problems.
>
> Let me know what other configuration info I can send
> you to help
> solve this problem.
>
> Tom
>
I tried Explorer at work and was able to access all
three options with no problem. I use Navigator at
home and it drew a blank on all three. Is this data
any help?
Steven Stary
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